Do Muslims believe in the Doctrine of Substitutionary Atonement? - Dr. Shabir Ally
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Do Muslims believe in the Doctrine of Substitutionary Atonement (Allah will remove some of the Muslims' sins and put them on the Jews and Christians at the Day of Judgement)? - Dr. Shabir Ally refutes Sam Shamoun
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Dr. Shabir Ally is president of the Islamic Information & Dawah Centre International in Toronto, Canada. He is a Muslim activist, academic, scholar and public speaker on Islam and comparative religion. He is viewed as the leading Muslim debater in the world on Islam and Christianity, having engaged in public debates around the world with noted theologians, Christian apologists and renowned philosophers. Dr. Shabir Ally holds an M.A. and PhD in Islamic studies from the University of Toronto, and a BA in religious studies from Laurentian University with a specialization in Biblical Literature. He is the author of numerous booklets on Islam and Christianity.
David Wood is a member of the Society of Christian Philosophers, the Evangelical Philosophical Society, and the Hume Society. A former atheist, David became a Christian after examining the historical evidence for the resurrection of Jesus. He is a contributor to the books Evidence for God: 50 Arguments for Faith from the Bible, History, Philosophy, and Science; Defending the Resurrection; and True Reason: Christian Responses to the Challenge of Atheism. David has a PhD in Philosophy from Fordham University and has been in more than 40 moderated public debates with Muslims, atheists, and other Christians. He lives in the Bronx with his wife Marie and his four sons, Lucian, Blaise, Reid, and Paley.
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There is no Substitutionary Atonement in Islam
Shameless Sam Shamoun plays with the subtleties of Hadith narrations to misguide people about Islam by bringing Islam’s just ideas down to the level of some of the celebrated ideals of the religion he professes.
He uses four different narrations. Let us see as to what they really mean.
Narration 1 & 2:
عن أبي موسى، قال: قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم: " إذا كان يوم القيامة، دفع الله عز وجل إلى كل مسلم، يهوديا، أو نصرانيا، فيقول: هذا فكاكك من النار "
Abu Musa' reported that Allah's Messenger said: When it will be the Day of Resurrection Allah would deliver to every Muslim a Jew or a Christian and say: That is your rescue from Hell-Fire.
(Sahih Muslim, Book 037, Number 6665)[1]
And another narration says;
عن النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم، قال: «لا يموت رجل مسلم إلا أدخل الله مكانه النار، يهوديا، أو نصرانيا
Allah's Messenger –may the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him- said: No Muslim would die but Allah would admit in his stead a Jew or a Christian in Hell-Fire.
(Sahih Muslim, Book 037, Number 6666)
Al-Nawawi’s explanation:
Apparently, it does seem like what this shameless Sam Shamoun suggests, however, as the Muslim scholars have explained, this is not the case. And yes, these are the classical scholars and not modern “Muslim apologists”.
Imam al-Nawawi (d. 676 A.H.) comments on these narrations;
ومعنى هذا الحديث ما جاء في حديث أبي هريرة لكل أحد منزل في الجنة ومنزل في النار فالمؤمن إذا دخل الجنة خلفه الكافر في النار لاستحقاقه ذلك بكفره ومعنى فكاكك من النار أنك كنت معرضا لدخول النار وهذا فكاكك لأن الله تعالى قدر لها عددا يملؤها فإذا دخلها الكفار بكفرهم وذنوبهم صاروا في معنى الفكاك للمسلمين
And the meaning of this Hadith is like what is reported in a narration from Abu Hurayrah that, “For everyone there is a place in Paradise and a place in Hell” So if the believer enters paradise his place in Hellfire will be occupied by a disbeliever, due to (the fact that) he himself deserves it because of his disbelief. And the meaning of [the words] ‘Your rescue from Hell’ is that you were susceptible to entry into Hell and this (disbeliever) is (as such) your rescue for Almighty Allah has destined for Hell a number that will fill it and (the number will be completed) when the disbelievers enter it due to their disbelief and sins. This is referred to as rescue for Muslims.”
(Sharah al-Nawawi, Dar Ehia al-Tourath al-Arabi, Beirut 1392 A.H.vol.17 p.85)
http://www.letmeturnthetables.com/2012/04/no-substitutionary-atonement-islam.html
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Dr. Shabir Ally is president of the Islamic Information & Dawah Centre International in Toronto, Canada. He is a Muslim activist, academic, scholar and public speaker on Islam and comparative religion. He is viewed as the leading Muslim debater in the world on Islam and Christianity, having engaged in public debates around the world with noted theologians, Christian apologists and renowned philosophers. Dr. Shabir Ally holds an M.A. and PhD in Islamic studies from the University of Toronto, and a BA in religious studies from Laurentian University with a specialization in Biblical Literature. He is the author of numerous booklets on Islam and Christianity.
David Wood is a member of the Society of Christian Philosophers, the Evangelical Philosophical Society, and the Hume Society. A former atheist, David became a Christian after examining the historical evidence for the resurrection of Jesus. He is a contributor to the books Evidence for God: 50 Arguments for Faith from the Bible, History, Philosophy, and Science; Defending the Resurrection; and True Reason: Christian Responses to the Challenge of Atheism. David has a PhD in Philosophy from Fordham University and has been in more than 40 moderated public debates with Muslims, atheists, and other Christians. He lives in the Bronx with his wife Marie and his four sons, Lucian, Blaise, Reid, and Paley.
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There is no Substitutionary Atonement in Islam
Shameless Sam Shamoun plays with the subtleties of Hadith narrations to misguide people about Islam by bringing Islam’s just ideas down to the level of some of the celebrated ideals of the religion he professes.
He uses four different narrations. Let us see as to what they really mean.
Narration 1 & 2:
عن أبي موسى، قال: قال رسول الله صلى الله عليه وسلم: " إذا كان يوم القيامة، دفع الله عز وجل إلى كل مسلم، يهوديا، أو نصرانيا، فيقول: هذا فكاكك من النار "
Abu Musa' reported that Allah's Messenger said: When it will be the Day of Resurrection Allah would deliver to every Muslim a Jew or a Christian and say: That is your rescue from Hell-Fire.
(Sahih Muslim, Book 037, Number 6665)[1]
And another narration says;
عن النبي صلى الله عليه وسلم، قال: «لا يموت رجل مسلم إلا أدخل الله مكانه النار، يهوديا، أو نصرانيا
Allah's Messenger –may the peace and blessings of Allah be upon him- said: No Muslim would die but Allah would admit in his stead a Jew or a Christian in Hell-Fire.
(Sahih Muslim, Book 037, Number 6666)
Al-Nawawi’s explanation:
Apparently, it does seem like what this shameless Sam Shamoun suggests, however, as the Muslim scholars have explained, this is not the case. And yes, these are the classical scholars and not modern “Muslim apologists”.
Imam al-Nawawi (d. 676 A.H.) comments on these narrations;
ومعنى هذا الحديث ما جاء في حديث أبي هريرة لكل أحد منزل في الجنة ومنزل في النار فالمؤمن إذا دخل الجنة خلفه الكافر في النار لاستحقاقه ذلك بكفره ومعنى فكاكك من النار أنك كنت معرضا لدخول النار وهذا فكاكك لأن الله تعالى قدر لها عددا يملؤها فإذا دخلها الكفار بكفرهم وذنوبهم صاروا في معنى الفكاك للمسلمين
And the meaning of this Hadith is like what is reported in a narration from Abu Hurayrah that, “For everyone there is a place in Paradise and a place in Hell” So if the believer enters paradise his place in Hellfire will be occupied by a disbeliever, due to (the fact that) he himself deserves it because of his disbelief. And the meaning of [the words] ‘Your rescue from Hell’ is that you were susceptible to entry into Hell and this (disbeliever) is (as such) your rescue for Almighty Allah has destined for Hell a number that will fill it and (the number will be completed) when the disbelievers enter it due to their disbelief and sins. This is referred to as rescue for Muslims.”
(Sharah al-Nawawi, Dar Ehia al-Tourath al-Arabi, Beirut 1392 A.H.vol.17 p.85)
http://www.letmeturnthetables.com/2012/04/no-substitutionary-atonement-islam.html